Comments on: the diet delusion http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-diet-delusion the curious study of broken things Tue, 24 Jan 2012 10:24:38 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: The Sunday Times, Art De Vany and Evolutionary Fitness » knackeredhack http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-32795 The Sunday Times, Art De Vany and Evolutionary Fitness » knackeredhack Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:04:05 +0000 http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/#comment-32795 [...] the risk of insulin insensitivity, so that we wander around with the wrong probabilistic map. Gary Taubes‘ The Diet Delusion gets a mention in the piece [...] [...] the risk of insulin insensitivity, so that we wander around with the wrong probabilistic map. Gary Taubes‘ The Diet Delusion gets a mention in the piece [...]

]]> By: Methuselah http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-32229 Methuselah Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:51:49 +0000 http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/#comment-32229 For me the biggest challenge is explaining the concepts Taubes writes about it terms that can capture the interest of friends and relatives. The chances of getting them to watch one of these videos from start to finish is almost zero. Yet I can't shake my desire to tell people that they should not be eating bread etc and of course am then called upon to justify the statement. So when I stumbled upon this 3-minute video it was the perfect solution! <a href='http://paynowlivelater.blogspot.com/2008/08/sometimes-video-is-worth-thousand-words.html' rel="nofollow">Sometimes a video is worth a thousand words...</a> Methuselah <a href='http://paynowlivelater.blogspot.com' rel="nofollow">Pay Now Live Later</a> For me the biggest challenge is explaining the concepts Taubes writes about it terms that can capture the interest of friends and relatives. The chances of getting them to watch one of these videos from start to finish is almost zero. Yet I can’t shake my desire to tell people that they should not be eating bread etc and of course am then called upon to justify the statement. So when I stumbled upon this 3-minute video it was the perfect solution!

Sometimes a video is worth a thousand words…

Methuselah
Pay Now Live Later

]]> By: knackeredhack http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-32226 knackeredhack Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:56:57 +0000 http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/#comment-32226 Xanderman, Sometimes the Hackette reads it out loud, perhaps to annoy me, but I think to reveal how gripping and important a book it is. Markus, Some books are so good that they merit re-reading, and I think what you say speaks volumes, as it were. As an alternative, I'm dipping into James Le Fanu's The Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine. It looks like there is an overlap in perspectives, although Le Fanu's is not exclusively about diet. Both show the absolute value books continue to have in marshalling and presenting complex and critical information for a non-academic but motivated audience. Tim Xanderman,

Sometimes the Hackette reads it out loud, perhaps to annoy me, but I think to reveal how gripping and important a book it is.

Markus,

Some books are so good that they merit re-reading, and I think what you say speaks volumes, as it were. As an alternative, I’m dipping into James Le Fanu’s The Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine. It looks like there is an overlap in perspectives, although Le Fanu’s is not exclusively about diet. Both show the absolute value books continue to have in marshalling and presenting complex and critical information for a non-academic but motivated audience.

Tim

]]> By: markus http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-32210 markus Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:24:34 +0000 http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/#comment-32210 hi just saw your site - from Mark's Apple i read Taube's book four times so i could take it in properly he originally, i believe, wanted to expand on his "What if it;s all been a big fat lie" article for Time magazine - which got a lot more attention. i think he realised quickly that the establishment would not listen to a debunking exercise of the central cholesterol/saturated fat myth (the lipid hypothesis) - an argument on the negative simply evoke entrenchment. He also must have realised that we needed a context in which to view competing strands of theories to explain the observed data from the turn of the century (the diseases of civilisation) in order to understand how the establishment thinks. Taubes seems to have recognised that you need to present a positive avenue to explore after you've pulled the conceptual rug from under people's feet. So he traced the history of the main alternative hypothesis - from saccharine disease to the carbohydrate hypothesis. This happens to cut at the heart of the cholesterol myth at the same time as providing a good basis for optimism in finding the answer to the basic conundrum - what is it the the Western diet that is making us ill? He also piles in all the solid evidence to easily demonstrate that the carbohydrate hypothesis explains the data much better than the lipid theory - mainly by concentrating on a key are - the question of what makes us fat? The reasons he discovers in his epic and very readable journey are key to understanding plausible scenarios for the causes of cancer, CVD, Alzheimer's, obesity and diabetes. It's worth the effort - and won't be as onerous as you think all the best Markus hi
just saw your site – from Mark’s Apple
i read Taube’s book four times so i could take it in properly
he originally, i believe, wanted to expand on his “What if it;s all been a big fat lie” article for Time magazine – which got a lot more attention.
i think he realised quickly that the establishment would not listen to a debunking exercise of the central cholesterol/saturated fat myth (the lipid hypothesis) – an argument on the negative simply evoke entrenchment. He also must have realised that we needed a context in which to view competing strands of theories to explain the observed data from the turn of the century (the diseases of civilisation) in order to understand how the establishment thinks. Taubes seems to have recognised that you need to present a positive avenue to explore after you’ve pulled the conceptual rug from under people’s feet. So he traced the history of the main alternative hypothesis – from saccharine disease to the carbohydrate hypothesis. This happens to cut at the heart of the cholesterol myth at the same time as providing a good basis for optimism in finding the answer to the basic conundrum – what is it the the Western diet that is making us ill?

He also piles in all the solid evidence to easily demonstrate that the carbohydrate hypothesis explains the data much better than the lipid theory – mainly by concentrating on a key are – the question of what makes us fat?

The reasons he discovers in his epic and very readable journey are key to understanding plausible scenarios for the causes of cancer, CVD, Alzheimer’s, obesity and diabetes.

It’s worth the effort – and won’t be as onerous as you think

all the best

Markus

]]> By: Xanderman http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-32135 Xanderman Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:05:51 +0000 http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/#comment-32135 Tim, I am in the process of reading Good Calories, Bad Calories (American title) right now and it is wonderful. I'm a very slow reader and this book demands even slower reading because the science behind the current health and diet recommendations is explored in such great depth and wonderfully torn up apart, gently but effectively. I am about half way through the book and I think I enjoy each chapter more than the previous. I think it was the chapter on dementia and cancer that I was least interested in initially, but came to thoroughly enjoy it and learned some very interesting information. The video clip you posted is great. I saw it a few weeks ago and found it as riveting as the book. Taubes is an excellent presenter and is incredibly thorough. Good luck wresting it from the Knackered Hackette. Xanderman Tim,

I am in the process of reading Good Calories, Bad Calories (American title) right now and it is wonderful. I'm a very slow reader and this book demands even slower reading because the science behind the current health and diet recommendations is explored in such great depth and wonderfully torn up apart, gently but effectively.

I am about half way through the book and I think I enjoy each chapter more than the previous. I think it was the chapter on dementia and cancer that I was least interested in initially, but came to thoroughly enjoy it and learned some very interesting information.

The video clip you posted is great. I saw it a few weeks ago and found it as riveting as the book. Taubes is an excellent presenter and is incredibly thorough.

Good luck wresting it from the Knackered Hackette.

Xanderman

]]> By: Weekend Link Love | Mark's Daily Apple http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/comment-page-1/#comment-32128 Weekend Link Love | Mark's Daily Apple Sun, 10 Aug 2008 15:57:52 +0000 http://knackeredhack.com/2008/07/04/the-diet-delusion/#comment-32128 [...] Hack offers up a video of Gary Taubes author of Good Calories, Bad Calories (aka The Diet Delusion in the UK) and considers taking up the task of reading the book [...] [...] Hack offers up a video of Gary Taubes author of Good Calories, Bad Calories (aka The Diet Delusion in the UK) and considers taking up the task of reading the book [...]

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